Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

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Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by John at Walton » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:33 pm

http://www.elmbridge.gov.uk/former-walton-gasworks/

I got my letter two days ago (Stonebanks - Manor Road)- "this may blight your house price" was the first thing I read!!

September 2017 - information provided to residents
October 2017 – ground investigations work begins and last 4-6 weeks
Summer 2018 - we will aim to have the final report available

Much to read, but, I would not like to be anywhere near 26 Manor Road!
I assume all this came about because of the Toad Hall playschool closing and wanting to change to residential?

River Thames
Sullivans Reach
Annette Road
Manor Road
Stonebanks
Bishops Hill
Walton Day Centre
Missed the Tory HQ - next time!!
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by Davros » Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:52 pm

Guess this will impact on any potential sales in the immediate area of the red line until investigations have been completed... :?
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by Kernowshep » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:29 pm

http://www.elmbridge.gov.uk/EasySiteWeb ... ?alId=3721

Interesting piece summarising historical development of Walton on page 22
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by Davros » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:52 am

Fascinating report on many levels.

Especially when your house potentially stands on a buried, half filled storage tank slowly leaching dangerous chemicals into the soil :(
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by Davros » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:51 am

App receivers of the dreaded letters are invited by the Council; to attend a meeting at the River House Barn on Tuesday evening.
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by magnolia » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:48 am

Davros wrote:Fascinating report on many levels.

Especially when your house potentially stands on a buried, half filled storage tank slowly leaching dangerous chemicals into the soil :(
:shock: Sorry to hear that.

The council are still building and granting planning permission to build on these sites too.
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by Lewy » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:36 pm

magnolia wrote:
Davros wrote:Fascinating report on many levels.

Especially when your house potentially stands on a buried, half filled storage tank slowly leaching dangerous chemicals into the soil :(
:shock: Sorry to hear that.

The council are still building and granting planning permission to build on these sites too.
Can we have some examples to support these accusations?
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by John at Walton » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:08 am

Can we have some examples to support these accusations?
The Sport Hub just built on land environmentally unsafe now made safe is a prime example!
In a couple of years, the council would have lost the papers saying it is safe and they have to start the environment checks again.
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by Lewy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:13 am

John at Walton wrote: In a couple of years, the council would have lost the papers saying it is safe and they have to start the environment checks again.
What an utterly ridiculous statement to make.
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by John at Walton » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:15 pm

Lewy wrote:
John at Walton wrote: In a couple of years, the council would have lost the papers saying it is safe and they have to start the environment checks again.
What an utterly ridiculous statement to make.
Lewy - That's what has happened to the Walton & Weybridge Gas Works environmental survey so this is not an "utterly ridiculous statement to make"!!!
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by Lewy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:49 pm

John at Walton wrote:
Lewy wrote:
John at Walton wrote: In a couple of years, the council would have lost the papers saying it is safe and they have to start the environment checks again.
What an utterly ridiculous statement to make.
Lewy - That's what has happened to the Walton & Weybridge Gas Works environmental survey so this is not an "utterly ridiculous statement to make"!!!
So your argument is based on something that might happen in the future. I call that ridiculous but each to his own.
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by John1664 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:57 pm

Had our 1-2-1 meeting with them on Monday, and being given a lot of lip service!
Looking forward to a good turn out at tonights meeting, and hopefully a few more answers.
Amazing how letters arrived less than 6months after DEFRA removed their funding grants for remediation.
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by magnolia » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:02 pm

Presumably, you may have recourse to the builder or developers or surveyors or even council for grating permission?
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by John at Walton » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:43 pm

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail ... a390dbfe7d

The Regime (set out in Part 2A of the Environmental Protection Act 1990 ) provides a mechanism for cleaning up land which is contaminated. Around 300,000 hectares of land are thought to be affected by legacy contamination due to the UK’s industrial past.

Liability under the Regime
The key principle is that the “polluter pays”. This means that whoever has caused or knowingly permitted contamination should pay for its remediation (Class A person). Where the causer/knowing permitter cannot be found then the current owner or occupier of the site at the time it is designated will be liable (Class B person). Where no Class A or Class B person can be found the cost of remediation falls on the State.

Local authority inspections
The Regime requires that local authorities inspect their respective areas from time to time to identify land which may be “contaminated land”. The statutory guidance which accompanies the Regime explains how land should be inspected and prioritised. To date the main reason given by local authorities for designating a site is an unacceptable risk to human health.

Funding for Remediation
Despite the “polluter pays” principle the Environment Agency’s latest report on Dealing with Contaminated Land in England, April 2016 confirms that at the majority of remediated sites the costs fell to the local council or the Environment Agency. Whilst the polluters/knowing permitters were often pursued to meet the costs of remediation, they could not be found or be made to pay in the majority of cases. Only in 9% of cases did the original polluter fund the remediation. The current owner/occupier funded the remediation in a further 8% of cases.

Funding in the majority of cases where remediation was undertaken by the local authority was through direct funding from DEFRA in the form of Contaminated Land Capital Grants. These are to be phased out completely from April 2017.

Potential Impacts
The Environmental Audit Committee’s Soil Health report, published 2 June 2016 has highlighted concerns that due to the removal of this funding local authorities now have no budget to investigate or remediate contamination.

The Environmental Audit Committee has called for DEFRA to consider an ongoing dedicated funding stream for contaminated land. It has also called for the Department for Communities and Local Government to make clear what proportion of funds allocated to local authorities through other measures relate to their statutory contaminated land duties.

Central government appears to think that land contamination is an issue for local government and should be funded by individual Local Authorities. Against the current financial climate that is likely to be a challenge.

The planning regime does already deal with the remediation of the vast bulk of land contamination in the UK and for high value attractive sites that will remain the best option. However, the Regime has provided a stop gap to ensure that where there are significant environmental/ human health risks there is a method of ensuring even unattractive sites will be remediated.

The extent to which this will continue to happen going forward is currently an open question!
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Re: Former Walton & Weybridge Gas Works Site

Post by John1664 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:30 am

I have sent a letter to Anthony Jeziorski, asking the question, What legal obligation are they under to carry out these investigations? As I believe there are none!

This investigations, is an objective set in 2015, stating that 3 sites should be located by 2020, along with the employment of a Enviromental Officer in July 2015.

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